Now, you are opening quite a can of worms there, but if you really want to know...[...]
However, if you are bored enough please do PM me by all means.
No, I’m neither confused nor bored of these worms. Your views are reasonable.
Personally, I came to conclusion that introduction to some... knowledge concerning fundamental aspects of life generally fills people with the sense of ethical rightfulness which apparently gives them authority to teach others how to live. To me, both camps are equally repugnant in that matter.
If to distract from emotions, though, I suppose, religious thinking is subsistent to human mind and vitally needs an application point. To believe in a god is an instinctive way to set it to work, yet not the only one: its manifestation may also take a shape of the love for nature, family, sport, music, human rights, movie stars and many other things including science. In this sense nobody tends to be an atheist. There’s a conjecture that otherwise mankind would have exterminated itself already because extermination starts where the sacred disappears.
To sum up, spreading enlightenment as a way to understand one’s place in the world a bit better is fine but I can hardly see the point of concentrating so much effort upon converting folks into atheists above all.
In case you’re not tedious yourself yet, I agree, this conversation might be brought to PM.
"Journey to the End of Night" has been on my nightstand for ages now and I haven't got around to start reading it yet.
I'm not sure if you made me want to start it or continue posponing it.
You can open it on a random page, read a few more on and then decide on your own whether you want to let yourself in, or rather read something about Céline first.
Aw.I'm super saddened that a learned person like you does not know music - or, rather, only knows popular, recorded, mass-manufactured music.
Hit "shuffle" and be surprised! You might have noticed I have not suggested a specific piece, composer, age or recording - I guess you understand why, just as I guess you are guessing listening is not all the story anyway
Instead of pouring a vain gush out may I just say that I’m very glad you’re a member of this forum? Thanks for giving such a detailed and kindly advise, I have already started on listening and my hope is back.
However, rather than directing you to Sachs' essays or Adorno's famous definition and condemnation of "popular music"
Implicitly I’m acquainted with Adorno through his saying that ‘writing poetry after Auschwitz is barbaric’.
Touching upon the topic of religious thinking once again, mine, I guess, is flittering around words – turning thus reading and learning languages into my major occupations, – so I find this noting important. Indeed, never before they had failed so much. Still, at least one poet, as it seems to me, has rehabilitated the meaningfulness of words in rendering the experience of annihilation: Paul Celan.
One German translator mentioned his name among her ‘comates in survival’, and it struck me that I get attached to writers and poets according to the same principle.
Here’s Celan’s most famous poem, Death Fugue (English subtitles included).
I got down to reading Vonnegut that fast due to this disquiet about how speech deals with the grave in warfare.
But if you really only have five minutes... here's is one interpretation of one of my favourites:[...]
There is, of course, an easy way to go 100% back on topic from here: it was a favourite of the great Philip K. Dick, which inspired the title of the novel "Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said".
Not that I've heard too much lute music in my life, but its sound has always been mellow for ears (Luteduo channel is also absorbing!).
Two questions: are you into music professionally and why are you so keen on science fiction?
Me, I am already wondering if William Golding might have read the book.
It came to my mind too; however, better late than never: I checked, Lord of the Flies (1954) came out earlier than Violence and the Sacred (1972), the same with regard to Cat’s Cradle (1963) and Slaughterhouse-5 (1969). The more alarming they look then.
Violence and the Sacred by René Girard. Its summary might be found here.
Serious ground to spare time on Girard: he offers an elaborate explanation of a) why picturing violence as a transcendent, inhumane, external to society force has once sprung up and remained in people‘s thinking for ever, b) why mythological systems evoked by different ethnical groups are more or less similar to each other and c) why it‘s a huge mistake to count myth as substance which has nothing to do with reality.
I also take Girard‘s concept as compehensive reasoning of d) why mankind can‘t help fighting wars and believing in deities. No reason to consider anyone inferior anymore. Lots of reasons to sense biting anxiety, though.
Unserious ground: books of this kind always provide methodology for interpreting pop culture stuff (for instance, turning points of 2001: A Space Odyssey or phenomenon of a pale, smeary-haired punk standing in front of a fascinated crowd and yelling out insulting for common taste words).
The best book within my recollection, I dare say. The one which requires plenty of guts from a reader, too.
Next in turn is Geschichte eines Deutschen (The Story of a German) by Sebastian Haffner.
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