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I know that ice-hockey seasons are very long, but why do they play the World championships every year?  Wouldn't it have more status and credit, if they played it once every two or four years instead of being it a annual thing?

And am I correct that the United Stated last won it in 1960? I know they don't send a lot of best players due to the league, but really .........56 years and not one world championship?  :giggle:

I guess, it's a bit like the Premier League - without all the foreign players it just would explode to a very average level?


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It's ice hockey that interests me also the most, I'd say. I support Helsinki IFK (yes, the club has handball teams, too). Plus the end seasons of the rally world series and formula 1.

The World Cup tournament (and the former Canada Cup) is actually a very rare event. There have been held eight tournaments during 1976 to 2016 (last time 2004). The World Championship tournament is annual. The World Cup will be played in September before the NHL season and the World Championship in May. Both take about two weeks.
 


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And am I correct that the United Stated last won it in 1960? I know they don't send a lot of best players due to the league, but really .........56 years and not one world championship?  :giggle:

 

That's correct. They did win the -96 World Cup, though. But otherwise USA hasn't been that succesfull when you take all these tornaments in modern hockey. Which is odd since they do have lots of fantastic players. 


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Ehmmmm.... ice-hockey history in the NL, illustrated by some very accurate images!

 

Started after WW2, the Dutch ice-hockey competition was all kind of confusing, embarrassing and hilarious examples of an amateur sport with annual 4 to 36 matches played. From 1964 till now there is a (semi) professional league,  played by a different  number of teams, depending on sponsors. I would say, our best period was when Feenstra Flyers were the champions from 1975-1982. This sponsor made also able to import some good Canadian (often with Dutch roots) to the NL. It was also during this time the Dutch made it to the Olympics in 1980. One time only! 

They play (ed) in the famous Thialf venue in Heerenveen, which every Dutchie knows for its ice speed skating. in their haydays they drew 1000-3500 spectators, what was spectacular considering the place ice-hockey has here.

 

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The last few years the league consists of 6 Dutch and 1 Belgian team. It's all played in the more unknown and darker regions of the Dutch sports scene nowadays. The number of ice hockeyers in the NL is nowhere near the most popular 25 sports. It all has to do with money, not so much the cultural side of things, because success has been done. But we can't play ice-hockey outside in winter, so we are totally depended on indoor venues which are expensive and quite busy with other sports. 

 

Postcard from 1913

 

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Well known coaches in that 'glory' time for the Feenstra Flyers were Alex Andjelic (Yugoslavia), Dave Hyrsky (Canada) and ......Chuck Norris (USA). Have you ever heard of them Harvest or Whitenoise? So, concerning Dutch ice-hockey it's all doom and gloom and I can't see any improvement any time soon. Athletics, gymnastics, even cycling are on the up due to success by examplary sporters in those sports like Dafne Schippers. From the broadcasting point of view, only the league finals play-offs do get some time by our national broadcaster. For the rest: NADA!

 

 

There were 175 female ice-hockeyers in the Netherlands in 2011. Nice to see 12,5 % of them here. Hope they had fun!

 

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The nicest ice-hockey images in the NL are, when the canals get frozen and literally everybody lives on the ice. Hup, from your frontdoor on to the ice and have fun. Mothers with prams, fathers pulling sledges, couples skating hand in hand, older people performing old-fashioned style of riding and dances and everybody enjoying hot chocolate (with or without rum), thick and filling peasoup and hot kwast (lemonjuice with sugar - delicious). Without exaggerating these kind of days are magical, especially when the sun is shining and in the evening with the glow of street lanterns.

 

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Chuck Norris (USA). Have you ever heard of them Harvest or Whitenoise? 

 

No. Must be one of those enforcer-type of hockey players. If you touch our star-player, you'll pay..... :)

 

I guess dutch hockey stays as a marginal sports. Fot it to reach international level, you should have years of work with junior-hockey players and that takes money. And the general public should be interested in hockey. Plus the compettion is hard. You have leagues in Norway, Germany and Denmark alone ready to take a promosing talent. Not to mention big, wealthy leagues in Sweden or Switzerland. That public interest seems to go towards speed skating, field hockey and other sports in the Netherlands. And that eventually steers the promising young athletes to other sports. 

 

In Finland hockey is almost our national sport these days. Even if we are past those post-95 World Championship-days (our first and it was one with a Swedish head coach :dash:) , when we had a big boom in our hockey. The league was very competitive and the teams were financially able to sign very good players from Czech Rebublic and America's minor leagues. I think SM-league has lost a bit of that recently, since the economy has gone down and especially talented younger players seem to go to American juniorleagues instead of breaking through in SM.league these days. Plus the wealthier Russian KHL, Swedish Hockey league and Swiss NLA are also signing loads of our better players with more lucrative contracts these days. The remaining players seem to be the ones, who are very good, but not in that international level. This is a little problem concerning Finnish league these days. 

 

The last NHL-draft continued the march of young Finnish players. Patrik Laine was drafted as 2nd overall by Winnipeg Jets (which started the Selänne-comparisons, obviously),  Jesse Puljujärvi was 4th overall by Edmonton Oilers (which of course started some comparisons to Kurri, because "modern Gretzky", Connor McDavid is without a decent wingman). And defenceman Olli Juolevi went 5th overall. Next years most anticipated Finns are offencemen Eeli Tolvanen and Kristian Vesalainen and a defenceman Urho Vaakanainen. Bubbling under, HPK-goalie Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen, a huge netminder with a bright future. 

 

During the first years of 2000's we were puzzled by the fact that Finnish juniorsystem didn't produce world class talents. Finns were mostly players with high work ethics, but lacked that finishing touch that makes a star. Coaches renewed about ten years ago and that seems to pay off now. Plus of course this bunch of players were born in the years following that -95 WC. During that big boom I was referring to. 

 

To conclude:I wouldn't call somebody mad if they would say Finland is one of the biggest favorites to win the gold metals in 2022 winter olympics (if they allow NHL-players that is). These players are matured to adults by then. And there are allready a bunch of very talented young Finnish players in the NHL as well....


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His highlights are all good, but 2.32 onwards is as good as basketball gets. Last shot, game on the line, and he makes it way beyond the 3-point line. I also love the announcer:

 

"Here is Durant...FOR THE WIN!"


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I haven't watched much of the Paralympics, but there are some astonishing performances by these sporters in Rio. Like this Egyptian table-tennis player who hasn't got arms anymore, but plays with his mouth! And extraordinarily good!!

 

 

And yesterday I saw a Chinese female swimmer without arms doing the 4 x 50m medley! She lead the first two strokes, but then lost the battle from swimmers with one or two arms!

 

Respect! 


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 ´dance me to your beauty with a burning violin, 

  lift me like an olive branch and be my homeward dove,

  raise a tent of shelter now, though every thread is torn,

  we're both of us beneath our love, we're both of us above, dance me till the end of love´


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Been watching lots of Ice Hockey lately. World Cup came and went and Finland basically sucked in that tournament. Three games, three losses, 1-9 goal difference. The worst Finnish team has played in ages. Well, I'd say it was a good lesson. There was a certain condescending attitude towards that young North American team within the Finnish hockey community and it was a good lesson for these people. Arrogance doesn't get you anywhere and that team had it's bunch of future superstars. No need to undermine these guys at all. So they pulled a wedgie on Finnish team with a 4-1 victory. 

 

And after that it was Sweden. Finland needed to win that game and it was way better game. But you only win if you score goals. And Finnish players missed their chances time after time. Sweden needed two goals, one in the empty net to secure the victory and they made sure Finns were out from the quarter final stage. The final game against the Russians had no significance any more.

 

So, I have been following NHL lately, since Patrik Laine, "the next Selänne" (ironically he is playing in Winnipeg Jets just like Selänne did), is starting his NHL-career. There has been lots of comparisons between him and the number one draft pick, Toronto maple Leafs-player Auston Matthews. So naturally these guys have been on the spotlight ever since WJC 2016. Matthews scored 4 goals in his NHL-debut, which is the best since forever. Laine responded a few days later, when Jets were playing against Toronto, by scoring three goals. One of them tied the game, the other one was a game winning goal in overtime. After Matthews had missed a breakaway. These guys are putting on a show, for sure. 

 

Back in Finland, the League has reached 1/4 mark. Team I support, HPK, is finally back on track. Our coach, Antti Pennanen, has conjured up tactics that are both fun to watch and bring results. HPK hired a young goalie, Emil Larmi from Pelicans during the summer and this guy has been sensational. HPK defence hasn't been very good (to put it mildly), but Larmi has saved many points for HPK so far. Being that MVP.  It's time for a little break, which comes in the right time for HPK. A douchebag called Antti Tyrväinen did this to our best defence man, Joonas Lehtivuori and earned a 12 game suspension. Lehtivuori is out indefinitely due to a concussion. Charging, illegal hit to the head. Antti Tyrväinen is the biggest douche in Finnish league at the moment. He is known for these kinds of over-the-top hits and he is constantly in spotlight because of his foul play. Even the fans of his team, the Pelicans, want to throw him under the buss after that hit. Well, I hope Lehtivuori gets back soon. 


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Forget ice-hockey for a moment, Harvest!

Lotta Lepisto won a bronze medal for Finland at the Cycling World Championships!!! And I predict that she will win a lot more in the coming years when she stays healthy!! :music:  :good:


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 ´dance me to your beauty with a burning violin, 

  lift me like an olive branch and be my homeward dove,

  raise a tent of shelter now, though every thread is torn,

  we're both of us beneath our love, we're both of us above, dance me till the end of love´


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Forget ice-hockey for a moment, Harvest!

 

 

Pretty hard, since there is so much happening. But the Finnish league is taking a little break now and I'm probably going to take a little breather as well. BTW, this just in. 

 

Goals 5 and 6 for Patrik Laine. This guy is everything the doctor ordered for Finnish ice hockey. Too many times we have lost big games due the lack of scoring talent and we really haven't had a natural scorer like this since the heydays of Selänne. And I like this guys cocky attitude as well:

Interviewer - What do you want to say to the Swedish crowd?

Laine - Prepare to lose.

Now that's the spirit :laugh:

 

Lotta Lepisto won a bronze medal for Finland at the Cycling World Championships!!! And I predict that she will win a lot more in the coming years when she stays healthy!! :music:  :good:

 

Well, nice to hear that. I'm not the biggest specialist in cycling, I must admit. But I must keep an eye on her, too. 


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Mad Max on the rampage!!

Seldom did I enjoy watching F1 more than yesterday afternoon. It was bizar on all kind of fronts...........safety-cars/red flags/ crashes/ near-crashes/audience booing the race-organisation/wrong tyre changes/ spins/ rain and more rains/aquaplaning.....in short, all that you want from a F1 race and certainly a wet one.

 

And then that those last 15 laps when Max Verstappen, starting in 16th position due to wrong Red Bull's decisions on tyre choice, began his conquest, ending in a astonishing 3rd spot. Having had 5 pit stops (to Hamilton's 2), he would have driven for the win otherwise, but that last 20 minutes were amongst the best I've ever seen in Formula 1.

And those senile English race officials may thank Max on their knees for his superior racing yesterday, for they did screw up F1 once more. No wonder they lost 2/3 of their audience already with all their disgusting and controversial rules.  

 

 

Here's a small video of his main overtakes, accompanied by a Dutch song with the title: 'Get out of the way, get out of the way, I've got only a few minutes left'! :giggle: 

 


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 ´dance me to your beauty with a burning violin, 

  lift me like an olive branch and be my homeward dove,

  raise a tent of shelter now, though every thread is torn,

  we're both of us beneath our love, we're both of us above, dance me till the end of love´


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No matter what great sporting performance the Dutch achieved this year, it was all completely overshadowed by the passing away of Johan Cruijff. Johan was in my eyes the best, most artistic and influential footballer ever and I'm not saying that because I'm a fellow country man. There are lots of non-Dutch sports people I do admire, but none have made such a deep impression on me and stayed with me for ever. 

I enjoyed Platini, Zico, Zidane, Bergkamp, Messi etc. a lot, but no one came close to the innovative and creative brilliance of Johan. After his playing days, he probably made an even bigger impact on world football by being a coach. His was also intensely involved with his foundation which provided (and still does) for hundreds and hundreds of the so-called 'Cruijjff-courts in poorer suburbs all over the world.

But seeing him play live and on tv was absolutely a privilege and it's very difficult to explain to a foreigner how much we loved Johan, not only as a footballer, but also for what a fine personality he had. Although we're not likely to admit it very easy, but we Dutchies are incredible proud how good a name Johan has all over the world. He was by far the most well known Dutchie with a very positive name, even in Madrid!

 

some of his goals:

 

  

 

 

remembered in Barcelona:

 

 

 

one of his courts in Johannesburg:

 

 

 

There have been made quite a few films about Johan, but I consider 'En un momento dado' to be the best. It's a much more insightful look into the influence he had in Barcelona, Catalunya and Spain. it's a great watch. Rest in peace, Johan.  


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 ´dance me to your beauty with a burning violin, 

  lift me like an olive branch and be my homeward dove,

  raise a tent of shelter now, though every thread is torn,

  we're both of us beneath our love, we're both of us above, dance me till the end of love´


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I never thought I was going to write that I am looking forward to a Formula 1-season. Never cared that much for motorsports that much, the main reason being that results for 80% depend on what machine you ride/drive. Even when Dutch drivers participated I didn't care much, but Max Verstappen has all changed that. He has got qualities in him that are recognizable world class and, if staying healthy, those could earn him a few world championships.

But put him, or anyone for that matter, in a Manor and you just know they won't score many points, if at all. i admit I do love a good crash (without serious inhjuries ofcourse), rain races, overtakes and races where not a of cars finish. ERspecially in this sport, I'm also in favour of the underdog. No clue if that qualifies me as a real fan, but I don't care. A bit of action. that's what i want! :music:  

 

So Bottas goes to Mercedes and, apart from Manor, all other seats are occupied. Even if it's only January, I think it's nice to do some predictions in two ways:

One top-10 of drivers who I want to do well, let's call it the top-10 of HOPE, and a top-10 based on a more realistic approach. Let's call that one the top-10 in REALITY.

 

Top-10 of HOPE:

 

 1. The Clog (who else :) )

 2. The Shoey

 3. The Lucky One

 4. The Quiet One 

 5. The Hulk

 6. Checo

 7. Spanish Junior

 8. The Turtle

 9. The Moaner

10. The Scumbag 

 

Top-10 In Reality:

 

 1. The Shoey

 2. The Scumbag

 3. The Clog

 4. The Lucky One 

 5. The Moaner

 6. The Quiet One

 7. Checo

 8. Spanish Junior

 9. The Hulk

10. Alonsonitus 

 

 

(explanation: The Clog = Verstappen/ The Shoey = Ricciardo)/ The Lucky One = Bottas/ The Quiet One = Raikonen/ The Hulk = Hulkenberg/ Checo = Perez/ Spanish Junior = Sainz/ The Turtle = Vandoorn/ The Moaner = Vettel/ The Scumbag = Hamilton/ Alonsonitus = Alonso)

 

Anyone else his/her prediction? 


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 ´dance me to your beauty with a burning violin, 

  lift me like an olive branch and be my homeward dove,

  raise a tent of shelter now, though every thread is torn,

  we're both of us beneath our love, we're both of us above, dance me till the end of love´





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